1873-CC WITHOUT ARROWS DIME...2 SURVIVORS...HERE WE GO AGAIN!

Is there any way to clear up the 1873-CC Without Arrows dime controversy? In the latest issue of Coin Values Oct. 2008 issue, which accompanies the Coin World Aug. 4, 2008 issue, there is an article (page 30) by Al Doyle (who I had the pleasure of meeting at our club meeting in Baltimore) entitled "Heading West." On page 32 of that article, Al shows a picture of the 1873-CC Without Arrows dime and states..."of which only 2 examples survive." Later in that article on page 32, Al states, "Low mintages, heavy circulation and a few meltings are the factors that have turned CC products such as the 1873-CC Seated Liberty, No Arrows dime (original mintage listed at 12, 400, with all but two presumed melted), the 1876-CC Seated Liberty 20-cent piece.....etc." I presume that the writers in these modern day coin publications are knowledgeable about coins, so why then is this in print? I will offer an apology if it turns out that yes, there indeed is a 2nd 1873-CC Without Arrows dime that somehow survived. Can this be cleared up once and for all?

THE COMSTOCK BONANZA COLLECTION OF 20 CENTERS

The Comstock Bonanza Collection of twenty cent pieces will be on the auction block at the pre-Long Beach Coin Auction presented by Superior Galleries on September 14, 15 & 16, 2008. Included in this collection is a fabulous 1876-CC twenty cent specimen graded MS 62 by PCGS. Contact Superior Galleries at 800-545-1001; 310-203-9855 or email at: info@sgbh.com

DEADLINE FOR SUBMISSION OF ARTICLES FOR NEXT CURRY'S CHRONICLE

The deadline for submission of articles, comments, letters to the editor, and advertising for the fall 2008 issue of Curry's Chronicle is July 31, 2008.

Please don't delay in submitting anything you have to share with our membership.

CLUB'S ANNUAL MEETING SCHEDULED FOR BALTIMORE ANA

Attention all C4OA members (and wannabe members):

The annual meeting of the Carson City Coin Collectors of America is scheduled for Thursday, July 31, at 1:00 p.m. in Room No. 319 on the Third floor of ANA's Worlds Fair of Money convention in Baltimore, MD.

Several members will be sharing about their experiences in collecting "CC" coins, and we will discuss club matters in general. As time permits (1 1/2 hour meeting) we will have a "show and tell" session which will allow members to show or describe their favorite "CC" coins.

We'll have good fellowship and a good time. Please try to attend if possible.

COIN WORLD ARTICLE ABOUT THE "CC" MINT

Greetings C4OA members. I just recieved my new issue of coin world today (July 7, 2008) and read with interest a nice article (page 77) written by CW staff member Cindy Brake. she makes many references to quotes by our own Rusty Goe. she also mentions his great book James Crawford Master of the Mint at Carson City - A Short Full Life. At the end of her 2nd paragraph in the article, Cindy mistakenly states that "In total 57 different coins would be issued" ( by the Carson mint). Of course we all know that 57 coins is the correct total for the three gold denominations but she was refering to the total gold and silver coin output which we also all know to be 111 coins. Other than that, Cindy wrote a nice article here and provided some nice pictures as well. those include: The "CC" mint circa 1879, weighing scales housed in the NV State Museum, obverse & reverse of an 1870-CC seated dollar - 1884-CC $20 - 1870-CC $20 - 1876-CC twenty center & the one and only (as in unique) 1873-CC without arrows dime. All in all, a nice article by Cindy.

Second 1873-CC No Arrows?

Has anyone gotten to the bottom of the "phantom" 1873-CC No Arrows dime that appeared in the PCGS population report a few years ago? The last thing I read about it was Rusty Goe's article in the E-Sylum Volume 6, Number 24 on June 15, 2003.

Any updates?

1870-CC DOUBLE EAGLE IN NGC XF-40 BRINGS $299,000

On Wednesday evening June 25, 2008 in New York City, an 1870-CC $20 gold piece graded XF-40 by NGC sold for $299,000 ($260,000 hammer price). Pre-sale estimates suggested that this coin might bring in excess of $325,000. In fact, a poll conducted on C4OA's blogsite resulted in a majority opinion of a price realized of $350,000 or higher.

This specimen of the rarest date/denomination in the "CC" gold coin series was featured in Stack's Husky sale which included a fine assortment of U.S. gold pieces.

1870-CC DOUBLE EAGLE DIE VARIETY 1-A EXPLAINED

This posting is in response to several questions about the 1-A Die variety on 1870-CC $20 gold pieces.

There are two known die varieties for this date, the 1-A and 2-B. The purpose of these designations is to point out distinctive characteristics displayed on each variety.

The Die 1-A variety features a large date with bold details. As seen in the arrow in the image to the left, the "1" in "1870" is near Liberty's neck. The arrow to the right shows the location of the small mintmark in relation to the bottom of the eagle's tailfeathers and the letters NT in TWENTY.

The location of the date and mintmark on the Die 2-B variety is noticeably different.

It's unknown which die variety the Carson Mint first used, although my guess is the 1-A.

Question on the 1870 CC

The Husky description refers to Dies 1-A. Can anyone discuss that? How many dies were there? How they are different? Were 1 and A the first die combination used?